The Atheist’s Cross to Bear

Following the AvC (Atheism vs Christianity) discussion threads on Google Groups, I am constantly amazed (shocked really) at how weak the arguments are, from the faithful brigade. And yet, they persist with weaker and yet more disingenuous arguments, each time they are shot down by Atheist posts. It’s not that hard to visualize them hanging onto a precipice, clutching onto the last few straws in desperation, while we Atheists pull them (the straws) out, one by one. It is pathetic in the extreme. And yet, this penchant to hang onto a discredited ideology, far from indicating a strong sense of perseverance, is an extremely dangerous proclivity.
Believers ask us Atheists why we care so much about their beliefs and faith. As a matter of fact, we are sometimes accused about being more concerned, obsessed even, with religion than they are. It is true we are overly concerned about religion and I’ve tried several times to come up with a rational reason why this is so. It has finally dawned on me that we are not so much concerned with religion as we are about the well being of the world. Yes, I now finally understand that Atheists are the world’s minders. We provide rationality and reason in a religious-mad world; we are the only force left that is preventing these religious nut-jobs from plunging us back into the dark ages. It is entirely  possible that if left unchecked they are liable to pre-empt global war to fulfill the “apocalyptic visions as described in Revelations”. As fellow Atheist, Psycho Dave (David W Irish) warns us on his blog Fundamentalist Deceit: An American Tradition, the evangelical-dominionist movement is all too real.
As Atheists, we keep the religious crowd, who are potentially fundamentalist, in check. You might say it is our cross to bear. Fellow Atheists, stand up tall and proud everywhere…

5 thoughts on “The Atheist’s Cross to Bear

  1. It has always been a great comfort to me to know that the idea of self-preservation,that is the preservation of all that is valuable–reason and rationality–is false.

  2. If I understand you correctly, you are postulating that reason and rationality are undesirable characteristics in humans. And you somehow equate these concepts to self-preseravtion? A very strange piece of logic (did I say logic – that’s what you’re against isn’t it?). Seems to me theists are the ones more concerned with self-preservation (of their supposed souls and maybe even lifeforms in the afterlife) and they are quite prepared to ditch reason and rationality to attain this delusion. If delusional thinking comforts you, by all means, drown in it.

  3. I am not saying that reason is undesirable; reason and rationality are very much desirable. What I am saying you have already said, that if the theist is concerned with self-perservation by supposedly removing Reason, than I suppose by keeping Reason, the skeptic removes the idea of preserving all life. But can this be so? If one removes the idea of preserving life, than Reason is removed as well. To preserve life is to preserve Reason, no? The theist is very well preserving life in this time so that they are preserved in the afterlife. Are they not protecting Reason? But if the skeptic seeks to protect life than they seek to protect Reason, but the only life they defend is the life existing now. Even when trying to protect life and Reason, they fail because of Death and Death, to the sceptic means to cease to exist, yes? Is this not vainity?

  4. Reason and rationality reside in the mind (brain) which exists only while we are alive. The skeptic only wants to maintain these characteristics while we are alive since as you’ve stated we do not believe in an existance after death. Thus I still maintain that for theists to suggest that since we (skeptics) fight to preserve reason and rationality while we are alive, we skeptics logically cannot extend this need into the afterlife, since when the brain dies, life ceases to exist. Skeptics clearly separate life from the afterlife and believe that thought (manifested as reason/rationality)ceases to exist when the brain dies. Your hypothesis while interesting, fails to distinguish between the domains of the living and the dead. It assumes that skeptics try to maintain reason as some form of desire that they want to project into a supposed afterlife. Theists, on the other hand who hanker after an existence in the afterlife, feel no compulsion to maintain reason, because they are too busy projecting into an (non-existent) afterlife to see the damage it causes in this life. If it is vain to maintain reason in the face of a theistic onslaught, then I’d rather be vain than delusional.

  5. I’m always amazed by this unnatural desire to see into the afterlife, thus wasting precious time here on Earth in the only life any of us will ever have.

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